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Tesla is more disconnected from fundamentals than ever

Tesla is having an objectively bad time, but its stock keeps going up.

Rani Molla, Luke Kawa

Tesla has never been a stock whose price has closely tracked its fundamentals, often trading on what seem like hopes and vibes, so-called “animal spirits” factors. But even for Tesla, whose stock is up nearly 30% in the last month, its link with reality seems tenuous these days.

“Its the worst Ive ever seen because the fundamentals have never been as bad,” CEO of GLJ Research and Tesla bear Gordon Johnson told Sherwood News.

Last quarter, Tesla’s revenue fell to a nearly two-year low and it only eked out a profit thanks to regulatory credits. Now that the Trump administration is trying to walk back emissions standards, what little profit is left could disappear.

In 2024, annual vehicle deliveries fell for the first time. They fell last quarter, too. This quarter isn’t shaping up much better, as sales in its three biggest markets — the US, Europe, and China — have also declined.

Tesla’s promise earlier this year to “return to growth in 2025” was expunged from its latest earnings report. Analysts’ consensus estimates on FactSet call for vehicle deliveries and overall revenue to decline this year.

Ryan Brinkman, an analyst at JPMorgan who has long lamented how Tesla’s stock price is divorced from its financial performance, says the outlook for the EV company has “significantly worsened across every metric,” including gross margin, earnings per share, and free cash flow, over the past few months.

So what’s going on with the stock? A few things.

Currently, Tesla is more correlated with the S&P 500 than ever before, so as the stock market goes, so goes Tesla. Retail traders’ interest in momentum stocks is guiding overall price action, while Tesla’s fundamentals have been left by the wayside.

That’s reinforced by strong demand in the options market, where the bulls have been squarely in control since late April. The 21-day moving average for the ratio of puts to calls has sunk close to its lowest levels on record for the stock over the past month, indicating that activity is skewed toward options that benefit from upside in the shares.

But perhaps what’s boosting Tesla’s stock the most is the impending robotaxi launch scheduled for next month, which has raised excitement among Tesla bulls to a fever pitch.

Their hopes for a future where Teslas drive themselves — goaded by robotaxi testing and videos showing full self-driving software improving — has outboxed niggling issues of financial performance and the deterioration of the company’s fundamental business.

“It’s  tangible evidence that’s saying robotaxis are moving from a more theoretical idea to a real product, a real service,” Morningstar equity strategist Seth Goldstein said.

CEO Elon Musk seems to always have some event or product for fans and investors to look forward to in the future. It’s often enough to propel the stock forward until the next big thing. Of course, big expectations can also lead to big disappointments, and Musk is notoriously bad with timelines.

“As we saw last year when Tesla even moved the robotaxi event two months later, we saw the stock sell off,” Goldstein said. “That tells me how much enthusiasm is priced into the stock that everything goes flawlessly with the robotaxi launch. And inevitably when you’re launching a new product, things do not go flawlessly.”

Any bad news surrounding the launch or autonomous driving in general — not getting the appropriate permits, delays, accidents, not scaling unsupervised full self-driving to California and the whole country as promised — could cause the stock to sell off.

“I expect fundamentals to eventually matter,” JPMorgan’s Brinkman tells us — not specifying when, just that it’s inevitable.

As Johnson put it, “ I have seen companies where the stocks have become detached from reality, but I’ve never seen a company where the stocks stay detached from reality.”

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Elon Musk says Tesla Robotaxis are operating without drivers, sending stock higher

Tesla CEO Elon Musk said that Tesla’s Robotaxis are now operating in Austin without a safety monitor. Tesla has been testing driverless cars in the area for about a month, and Musk had previously said the company would remove safety drivers by the end of 2025.

It’s unclear how many exactly of the roughly 50 Robotaxis the company operates in the area don’t have drivers. Tesla is “starting with a few unsupervised vehicles mixed in with the broader robotaxi fleet with safety monitors, and the ratio will increase over time,” Ashok Elluswamy, Tesla’s head of AI, posted shortly after Musk. Ethan McKenna, the person behind Robotaxi Tracker, estimates it’s two or three vehicles.

What is clear is that the move is good for Tesla’s stock, which is currently up 3.5%, extending its gains after Musk’s tweet. Morgan Stanley said yesterday that it considers the removal of safety drivers a “precursor to personal unsupervised FSD rollout.” Unsupervised Full Self-Driving is widely considered to be integral to the would-be autonomous company’s value proposition.

At the World Economic Forum earlier on Thursday, Musk said, “Self-driving cars is essentially a solved problem at this point.”

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Survey: CEOs and workers have wildly different thoughts on AI productivity gains

One of the main reasons companies are rushing to adopt AI is to give their workers the miraculous productivity boost that AI companies have been promising — and believe will quickly earn back their investment.

But now that companies have been using AI for a while, a growing perception gap is emerging between the C-suite and their employees.

The Wall Street Journal reported on new findings by research firm Section, which surveyed 5,000 white-collar workers from companies with more than 1,000 employees.

More than 70% of the corporate executives in the survey said they were “excited” by AI, and 19% of them said the tools have saved them more than 12 hours of work per week.

But nonmanagement workers had a very different take on AI. Almost 70% of this group said AI made them feel “anxious or overwhelmed,” and 40% said the tools saved them no time at all.

The Wall Street Journal reported on new findings by research firm Section, which surveyed 5,000 white-collar workers from companies with more than 1,000 employees.

More than 70% of the corporate executives in the survey said they were “excited” by AI, and 19% of them said the tools have saved them more than 12 hours of work per week.

But nonmanagement workers had a very different take on AI. Almost 70% of this group said AI made them feel “anxious or overwhelmed,” and 40% said the tools saved them no time at all.

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Tesla jumps as Musk says he expects Optimus sales next year, European and Chinese FSD approval next month

Tesla CEO Elon Musk now says he thinks the company’s Optimus robots will be for sale to the public “by the end of next year.”

According to Musk, “That’s when we are confident that there is very high reliability, very high safety, and the range of functionality is also very high.”

Like many of Musk’s other timelines, that’s later than he previously predicted. In 2024, for example, Musk said the AI robots would be for sale in 2025.

Speaking with BlackRock CEO Larry Fink on a panel today at the World Economic Forum, Musk said the robots are currently doing “simple tasks” in Tesla factories, but believes “they’ll be doing more complex tasks and be deployed in an industrial environment” by the end of this year, before going on sale to the public in 2027.

Musk forecasts a future with “billions” of AI robots that “saturate all human needs.”

On a separate topic, Musk was bullish on regulatory approval for what Tesla calls Full Self-Driving technology in markets outside the US. “We hope to get supervised Full Self-Driving approval in Europe, hopefully next month, and then maybe a similar timing for China,” he said. Musk has said in the past that the pending regulatory approval for FSD in Europe is a key reason why Tesla’s sales in the region have been tanking.

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Waymo is now offering autonomous rides in Miami

Google subsidiary Waymo announced Thursday that it’s officially open for autonomous ride-hailing in Miami, expanding the company’s coverage area to six US cities. The company will be “inviting new riders on a rolling basis” to take rides across its 60-square-mile service area, which includes the Design District, Wynwood, Brickell, and Coral Gables. Waymo said it plans to expand to Miami International Airport “soon.”

Competitor Tesla currently operates a ride-hailing service with a safety monitor in the vehicle in Austin and the Bay Area.

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Apple to promote Siri from assistant to chatbot

Bloomberg reports that Apple plans to transform its Siri assistant into a full-fledged chatbot similar to OpenAI’s ChatGPT.

The chatbot would be integrated throughout the iPhone’s operating system rather than offered as a stand-alone app. It’s expected to arrive later this year and would be separate from more incremental, non-chatbot improvements to Siri rolling out in the coming months aimed at making the existing assistant more usable.

Both updates will be powered by Google’s AI models, Bloomberg reports, but the chatbot upgrade will be more advanced and akin to the much-lauded Gemini 3.

While the difference between an assistant and a chatbot may sound subtle, it represents a meaningful shift for Apple, which has long avoided a fully conversational interface and has lagged rivals that embraced one. Any new Siri chat capabilities could also eventually extend to other Apple devices under development, including wearables such as the pin Apple is developing.

Both updates will be powered by Google’s AI models, Bloomberg reports, but the chatbot upgrade will be more advanced and akin to the much-lauded Gemini 3.

While the difference between an assistant and a chatbot may sound subtle, it represents a meaningful shift for Apple, which has long avoided a fully conversational interface and has lagged rivals that embraced one. Any new Siri chat capabilities could also eventually extend to other Apple devices under development, including wearables such as the pin Apple is developing.

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