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As the race for autonomy heats up, data shows Google’s Waymo costs more than Uber and Lyft

It’s another nail in the millennial lifestyle subsidy coffin.

Rani Molla

New data from ride-share comparison app Obi reported by TechCrunch puts data to what many riders in San Francisco already knew: Google’s driverless Waymo is more expensive than driver-having Lyft and Uber.

Waymo’s average price for comparable rides was $6 more than Lyft and $5 more than Uber (41% and 31% more, respectively), the report found. During peak hours, Waymo’s average price was about $11 more than Lyft and $9.50 more than Uber. People are apparently willing to pay for the novelty. Obi’s chief revenue officer told TechCrunch that the difference is people’s excitement about the technology and a “real preference to sometimes be in the car without a driver.”

Waymo, which currently operates in San Francisco (and Silicon Valley), LA, and Austin, is booking more than a quarter of a million paid rides per week. That, of course, is a lot more than Tesla, which says it doesn’t have any competition in the autonomous ride-hailing space but is slated to offer its first paid robotaxi ride in Austin this month. It’s also a lot less than Uber, which operates overwhelmingly with human drivers in markets around the world and does about 33 million trips a day, or about 230 million trips per week.

Waymo vehicles are equipped with numerous expensive sensors and can cost roughly $200,000, enough to buy five or six regular cars. As of May, there were just 1,500 Waymos operating in all its markets.

A recent estimate gives Waymo, which launched commercially in San Francisco just two years ago, a whopping 27% of the city’s ride-share market, but that data includes only rides that start and end in places Waymo operates, so in reality it’s lower.

Waymo does still seem to be a bit of a novelty, popular among tourists, and can be impractical. Geofenced Waymos there drive only within the San Francisco Peninsula, meaning it won’t take you to Oakland or the airport. They also avoid highways and other certain areas.

Everyday traffic incidents that are easy for humans to navigate can prove tricky to autonomous cars. An Uber driver I spoke with last week in San Francisco told me that the best time to take a Waymo is in the middle of the night, when no one else is driving.

Watchers of the industry may notice the Waymo pricing data is surprising given that one of the main selling points of driverless cars is that they diminish labor costs and, by extension, the cost of a ride.

Earlier in Uber and Lyft’s existence, customers could count on what was known as the “millennial lifestyle subsidy” to afford rides with them. Those companies, awash in venture capital, offered huge discounts to users in order to gain market share — a move that rendered them largely unprofitable but also decimated competitors like yellow taxis. But as the companies went public, and as Silicon Valley pivoted to an emphasis on profit in recent years, that discount has disappeared.

The true cost of a Waymo, for now, is more than that of an Uber or Lyft, both of which cost more than they used to.

The question is whether Waymo can get to scale without more subsidies — and if there’s room for more than one autonomous vehicle company in any market.

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TikTok closes deal to operate in the US

TikTok has finally sealed its deal to establish a majority American-owned joint venture to manage its US operations.

On Friday, the social media company announced that its US arm will now be led by three “managing investors” — Silver Lake, Oracle, and MGX, each with a 15% holding — whilst ByteDance retains 19.9% of the business, and a swath of other investors, including Michael Dell’s family office, round out the cap table.

The joint venture will be operated by a seven person majority-American board of directors which includes TikTok CEO Shou Chew, with Adam Presser, previously TikTok’s head of operations, trust, and safety, as its CEO.

Though the valuation of the new venture has not been shared, Vice President JD Vance has previously cited the market value of TikTok’s US operations at about $14 billion, just topping Snap and lower than Pinterest.

The deal closes the platform’s battle, which kicked off in earnest in August 2020 when President Donald Trump first tried to ban TikTok over national security concerns. The announcement notes that the new TikTok USDS Joint Venture LLC will “secure U.S. user data, apps and the algorithm.” Trump celebrated the deal, which has been signed off by both the US and Chinese governments per Reuters, in a Truth Social post, saying TikTok "will now be owned by a group of Great American Patriots and Investors, the Biggest in the World.”

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Elon Musk says Tesla Robotaxis are operating without drivers, sending stock higher

Tesla CEO Elon Musk said that Tesla’s Robotaxis are now operating in Austin without a safety monitor. Tesla has been testing driverless cars in the area for about a month, and Musk had previously said the company would remove safety drivers by the end of 2025.

It’s unclear how many exactly of the roughly 50 Robotaxis the company operates in the area don’t have drivers. Tesla is “starting with a few unsupervised vehicles mixed in with the broader robotaxi fleet with safety monitors, and the ratio will increase over time,” Ashok Elluswamy, Tesla’s head of AI, posted shortly after Musk. Ethan McKenna, the person behind Robotaxi Tracker, estimates it’s two or three vehicles.

What is clear is that the move is good for Tesla’s stock, which is currently up 3.5%, extending its gains after Musk’s tweet. Morgan Stanley said yesterday that it considers the removal of safety drivers a “precursor to personal unsupervised FSD rollout.” Unsupervised Full Self-Driving is widely considered to be integral to the would-be autonomous company’s value proposition.

At the World Economic Forum earlier on Thursday, Musk said, “Self-driving cars is essentially a solved problem at this point.”

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Survey: CEOs and workers have wildly different thoughts on AI productivity gains

One of the main reasons companies are rushing to adopt AI is to give their workers the miraculous productivity boost that AI companies have been promising — and believe will quickly earn back their investment.

But now that companies have been using AI for a while, a growing perception gap is emerging between the C-suite and their employees.

The Wall Street Journal reported on new findings by research firm Section, which surveyed 5,000 white-collar workers from companies with more than 1,000 employees.

More than 70% of the corporate executives in the survey said they were “excited” by AI, and 19% of them said the tools have saved them more than 12 hours of work per week.

But nonmanagement workers had a very different take on AI. Almost 70% of this group said AI made them feel “anxious or overwhelmed,” and 40% said the tools saved them no time at all.

The Wall Street Journal reported on new findings by research firm Section, which surveyed 5,000 white-collar workers from companies with more than 1,000 employees.

More than 70% of the corporate executives in the survey said they were “excited” by AI, and 19% of them said the tools have saved them more than 12 hours of work per week.

But nonmanagement workers had a very different take on AI. Almost 70% of this group said AI made them feel “anxious or overwhelmed,” and 40% said the tools saved them no time at all.

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Tesla jumps as Musk says he expects Optimus sales next year, European and Chinese FSD approval next month

Tesla CEO Elon Musk now says he thinks the company’s Optimus robots will be for sale to the public “by the end of next year.”

According to Musk, “That’s when we are confident that there is very high reliability, very high safety, and the range of functionality is also very high.”

Like many of Musk’s other timelines, that’s later than he previously predicted. In 2024, for example, Musk said the AI robots would be for sale in 2025.

Speaking with BlackRock CEO Larry Fink on a panel today at the World Economic Forum, Musk said the robots are currently doing “simple tasks” in Tesla factories, but believes “they’ll be doing more complex tasks and be deployed in an industrial environment” by the end of this year, before going on sale to the public in 2027.

Musk forecasts a future with “billions” of AI robots that “saturate all human needs.”

On a separate topic, Musk was bullish on regulatory approval for what Tesla calls Full Self-Driving technology in markets outside the US. “We hope to get supervised Full Self-Driving approval in Europe, hopefully next month, and then maybe a similar timing for China,” he said. Musk has said in the past that the pending regulatory approval for FSD in Europe is a key reason why Tesla’s sales in the region have been tanking.

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Waymo is now offering autonomous rides in Miami

Google subsidiary Waymo announced Thursday that it’s officially open for autonomous ride-hailing in Miami, expanding the company’s coverage area to six US cities. The company will be “inviting new riders on a rolling basis” to take rides across its 60-square-mile service area, which includes the Design District, Wynwood, Brickell, and Coral Gables. Waymo said it plans to expand to Miami International Airport “soon.”

Competitor Tesla currently operates a ride-hailing service with a safety monitor in the vehicle in Austin and the Bay Area.

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