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A TikTok ban could affect a wide variety of companies

The likelihood of a US TikTok ban is higher than ever. 

Last Thursday, the House of Representatives fast-tracked a bipartisan effort that could lead to Gen Z’s favorite app being banned in the US, and over the weekend, the House approved the bill.

The revised legislation ties TikTok’s fate to a foreign-aid package for Ukraine and Israel. The Senate passed its biggest procedural hurdle Tuesday afternoon in an 80-19 vote. The bill will get a final vote shortly, likely sending it to President Biden’s desk, where Biden said he’d sign it.

If it goes through, it would force TikTok’s Chinese parent, ByteDance, to separate from the app within a year or be banned in the States. This doesn’t necessarily mean a ban is imminent, but it means that the president will have a great deal of leverage to make the sale happen in the foreseeable future.

Supporters say the bill’s necessary to protect American data from the Chinese government. TikTok and other critics argue it would curb free-expression rights for 170M American TikTok users.

The Tik-ban saga’s long: US leaders have been trying to ban the addictive app since 2020. But now things are moving fast. Here are some companies that could be affected by a TikTok ban, based on how they mention the app in earnings transcripts and filings as either friend or foe. 

Social media: Meta, Snap, and others 

If the TikTok economy collapses, it’ll be a major win for rivals Meta, Google, and Snap, who each have TikTok copycats ready to step in (Reels, YouTube Shorts, and Spotlight). TikTok’s popularity among Americans has grown faster than any other social platform, and if it vanishes, its 170M US users would likely move to its rivals. TikTok’s often cited as a risk factor in social giants’ earnings:

  • Meta: “User growth and engagement are also impacted by a number of other factors, including competitive products and services, such as TikTok, that have reduced some users' engagement with our products and services.”

  • Snap: “We compete with other companies in every aspect of our business, particularly with companies that focus on mobile engagement and advertising. Many of these companies, such as Alphabet (including Google and YouTube), Apple, ByteDance (including TikTok), Meta (including Facebook, Instagram, Threads, and WhatsApp), Pinterest, and X (formerly Twitter), may have greater financial and human resources and, in some cases, larger user bases.”

Beauty: Elf, L’Oréal, Coty, Ulta, Clinique, and others 

These days, beauty companies are heavily reliant on social media (especially TikTok) to gain viral traction for their products — from Clinique’s Black Honey Lipstick and Elf’s liquid filter foundation to Coty’s Kylie Cosmetics. If a ban happens, it could dent beauty marketing: 

  • Elf: “We're one of the first beauty brands on TikTok, where we — our first hashtag challenge, I think had something like 3 billion views well before most people knew what TikTok was… So, our ability to go deep in a particular platform, be native in terms of how people are using it, is one of our key strengths.”

  • L’Oréal’s March report: “L’Oréal is no. 1 in influencer market share (+5.5 points compared to 2022 to the end of November 2023), boosted by strong leadership and increased TikTok.”

  • L’Oréal’s February earnings call: “There's like an appetite for beauty. And on TikTok is by far the number one category. And I think the number of video views have doubled in 2023. So, there is this appetite.”

  • Ulta: “In December, we surpassed 1 million followers on TikTok reinforcing our position as a social brand leader in beauty.”

…retail in general

Just like with beauty marketing, TikTok has played an important role in growth for Gen Z popular apparel brands like Revolve and Crocs, as well as old-school retailers like Target and Walgreens. It plays a key part in customer-acquisition strategies and is often cited as a growth driver on corporate earnings calls:

  • Revolve: “We had a really phenomenal quarter, in part driven by a TikTok Shop, that was really successful for us in the quarter.”

  • Crocs: “In August, we dropped our fourth Lightning McQueen Adult Clog with strong — with a very strong unveil on TikTok, garnering approximately 38 million views, our best-performing TikTok ever.”

  • Walgreens: “We had a TikTok influencer put something up about peeled mango gummies, and we can't keep them in stock now.”

Music: UMG, Sony, and Warner

Vertical dances and lip-sync vids are big business. Record labels have grown increasingly reliant on TikTok for the success of their songs, and are even tailoring tunes to what they think will go viral. Without that exposure, they could lose $$. But one record label said it could live without it: after TikTok and Universal Music Group failed to agree on royalty payments, TikTok removed all music from UMG artists like T. Swift and Drake. UMG’s focusing on other platforms:

  • UMG: “With regard to TikTok, we've disclosed that our former deal generated about 1% of total UMG annual revenue. Because other platforms in the social video category achieved much greater monetization, we're focused on accelerating our partnerships with YouTube, Meta, Snap and others and we look forward to updating you in the coming weeks ahead about exciting competitive developments and incremental opportunities emerging within the category.”

  • Warner Music: “We hope that UMG and TikTok come to a resolution and a good collaboration that's healthy for the ecosystem. To the extent that there's greater prominence on TikTok like greater prominence is a good thing. TikTok is a great marketing and promotion platform and tool.”

With the biggest hurdles cleared, we’re a vote away from it being basically just up to Biden as to whether these companies will have a whole lot more to talk about soon.

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Shares of Advanced Micro Devices pared substantial losses to turn positive after CEO Dr. Lisa Su unveiled optimistic medium-term revenue guidance at the company’s analyst day.

Over the next three to five years, her outlook is for compounded annual revenue growth of over 35% for AMD as a whole, with growth north of 60% for its data center business.

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With a pinch of salt about how predictions are hard, especially about the (further-out) future, the consensus estimate for AMD’s data center revenues in 2028 is $51.1 billion. If we use just 60% compounded annual growth and assume AMD hits its year-end estimate for about $16.26 billion, that would put the company’s 2028 AI sales around $66.6 billion.

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Forget AI — if you’re looking for growth, check out natural gas

Everybody knows about tech’s fast growers.

And Palantir’s 63% year-over-year sales Q3 growth rate was impressive. So was Robinhood Markets, which saw a 100% sales rise, or AppLovin at nearly 70% revenue growth.

(Robinhood Markets Inc. is the parent company of Sherwood Media, an independently operated media company subject to certain legal and regulatory restrictions. I own Robinhood stock as part of our compensation.)

But as we turn into the final lap of Q3 earnings season — Nvidia reports its numbers on November 19 and Walmart closes the season on November 20 — natural gas stocks have emerged as some of the most overlooked sources of revenue growth for investors, according to a screen we recently ran using FactSet data.

Expand Energy — created by the merger of Chesapeake and Southwestern in 2024 — is the nation’s largest natural gas producer, and when it posted sales of $2.97 billion in Q3 — up over 350% — late last month, it leapt to the top of the leaderboard for Q3 sales growth, according to FactSet data.

An early US cold snap, strong LNG exports from the US to Europe, and doubts about Russian supplies to the world market amid more talk of sanctions and Ukrainian attacks on Russian infrastructure, have all helped push up prices for gas.

US benchmarks are up more than 70% over the last 12 months, including a more than 50% gain over the the last three months — and strong demand from power plants competing to churn out energy for the the AI data center boom have created a favorable growth backdrop for other gas industry players from gas pipeline and processing company Oneok , to distributor EQT Corp, to drillers like Diamondback Energy and Coterra Energy.

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Fermi falls after reporting steep Q3 loss, says US is “at war” on AI

Fermi fell on Tuesday after it reported a steeper-than-expected loss in its first quarterly earnings report since the company’s initial public offering last month.

The company, which currently generates no revenue, reported a net loss of $346.8 million for its third quarter, compared to the $13.3 million loss analysts polled by FactSet were expecting. The loss was almost entirely comprised of unspecified “other expenses” totaling $309 million.

The company said it expects to have 1.1 gigawatts of gas capacity in service by the end of 2026.

Fermi, which was cofounded by former Energy Secretary Rick Perry, plans to use nuclear energy to power data centers. In its letter to shareholders on Monday, Fermi compared the race to build AI infrastructure faster than China to the Manhattan Project, the initiative to build the first atomic bomb in World War II.

“Not all enemies wear uniforms, but make no mistake, America is at war,” the company wrote.

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Nvidia dips as SoftBank dumps entire $5.8 billion position in the chip designer

SoftBank is moving on from the AI boom’s signature stock to fund an investment in the owner of the AI boom’s signature product.

In its Q2 earnings presentation, the Masayoshi Son-led Japanese investment firm said it sold its $5.8 billion position in Nvidia in October. On the conference call, CFO Yoshimitsu Goto noted that SoftBank owes OpenAI $22.5 billion by year-end to finance its equity stake in the ChatGPT maker, and spoke positively on the performance of its core product.

“This year, the OpenAI investment is large,” he added, when asked about why SoftBank sold Nvidia. “For that, we do need to divest our existing portfolio so that that can be utilized for our financing. We don’t have any specific meaning in October, or it’s nothing to do with NVIDIA itself.”

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Nebius Group’s $3 billion deal with Meta takes some of the sting out of soft Q3 results

The knee-jerk move lower in Nebius after the company reported underwhelming Q3 results is not being fully offset by its concurrent announcement of a fresh $3 billion deal with Meta to deliver AI infrastructure over the next five years.

The numbers:

  • Revenue: $146.1 million (compared to analyst estimates of $156.5 million)

  • Adjusted net income: -$100.4 million (estimate: -$95.7 million)

In its earnings presentation, the neocloud highlighted that it sold out of all available capacity in Q3.

Management also significantly boosted guidance related to capacity, seeing contracted power at more than 2.5 gigawatts at the end of calendar year 2026, up from 1 gigawatt previously. Next year is poised to be huge for Nebius in terms of putting that power to good use, as management sees connected power (that is, energy that can be immediately activated upon GPU installation) rising from 220 megawatts at year-end 2025 to a range of 800 megawatts to 1 gigawatt by the end of 2026, or roughly quadrupling its active operations.

In a letter to shareholders, founder and CEO Arkady Volozh said that the firm is “currently in the process of securing additional sites” that would allow this contracted power guidance to be realized.

“The only real limitation on our revenue growth in 2025 has been the amount of capacity that we have been able to bring online,” Volozh wrote.

As the company works to resolve these constraints, “we believe that we can achieve annualized run-rate revenue of $7 billion to $9 billion by the end of 2026,” he added. There’s only one ARR estimate for Q4 2026 among analysts surveyed by Bloomberg, and that’s for $4 billion.

Management also announced an at-the-market equity program that will allow them to opportunistically raise capital by issuing up to 25 million shares.

Peer CoreWeave is slumping after posting its Q3 results after the close on Monday, in which management highlighted that supply constraints in the “powered shell” — that is, the supporting electrical infrastructure for the data center — are delaying its ramp, prompting a cut to full-year revenue guidance.

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