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Market valuation climbs back to Covid boom territory

“Fundamentals matter in the long run, but in the short run, they’re meaningless,” one strategist told MarketWatch.

Everything looks incredibly rosy out there, if the market is to be believed.

With tariff-related inflation still a no-show, the market seems to less inclined to think trade war equals recession. That means expectations for corporate earnings are rising. And there’s nothing in the way of Fed rate hikes on the horizon, or yips emerging from the bond market.

In other words, as they like to say, it’s risk on, which creates a risk of its own: paying too much.

Look, I’ve been droning on about valuation recently, and yes, in the short term it’s a terrible timing device. Stocks can stay expensive and get more expensive for a good long while, especially when there’s a favorable wind at their back.

Case in point: MarketWatch is out with a piece talking about the recent upswing in “story stocks” — companies that might not make a ton of money at the moment, but that nevertheless capture the fancy of traders with convincing narratives about how their technological advantage will inevitably lead to world domination at some point in the far-off, hazy future.

Such tales, when combined with a solid price performance, really seem to be taking off right now, with traders seemingly less worried about a spotty history of profitability. MarketWatch wrote:

“Of the 10 stocks in the Russell 3000 index with the biggest year-to-date gains, many of the companies have one ominous thing in common: a spotty or nonexistent record of generating profit.

Take Aeva Inc. The stock was up more than 500% through Thursday's close, making it the top performer in the U.S. broad-market index. Yet the company reported losses for the past four consecutive quarters, FactSet data showed. The 10th-best stock, OptimizeRx Corp., saw its market value nearly triple this year, despite reporting losses in three of the past four quarters.”

And there are plenty of great stories out there for investors to be enamored of, from the integration of crypto into the legitimate financial system to the never-ending hype surrounding all things AI.

But fuddy-duddies such as myself can’t help ourselves from remarking on high price-to-earnings ratios on the broad market indexes at the moment.

Just look at the forward price-to-earnings ratio of the S&P 500, which climbed above 22x recently.

Until the post-Covid trading boom — it popped up during the stimmy-fueled trading boom of 2021 — I’d never seen a valuation that high during my career as a stonks hack.

More recently, the S&P 500 saw a 22x multiple prior to the tariff tantrum that nearly pushed us into a bear market in April.

Before that, you’ve got to go back to the tail end of the dot-com boom of the late 1990s to see valuations this high.

For the record, I’m not the only one who’s noticed signs of froth in the market. Bank of America analysts were out with a note today saying that small caps are “back to expensive.” Likewise, Deutsche Bank analysts marked some “pockets of exuberance” in the market, like rising bullish call options activity.

But few analysts are suggesting “fading” a rally driven in part by the relentless retail dip-buying that has emerged as a formidable stabilizing force in the market since the Covid crisis hit.

Some problem, crisis, issue, or uncertainty could emerge to dissuade the dip-buying masses from hitting the buy button if or when a serious sell-off comes. But it didn’t happen during the peak of the recent tariff panic.

It’s also quite hard to imagine what it might be. So, for the moment, this is a rally that is hard to dismiss.

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iRobot files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy just 11 days after its record one-day gain

Last one to leave the Roomba, please turn off the lights.

iRobot, maker of robotic vacuums and other cleaning products, announced that it was filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy on Sunday as part of a restructuring agreement that would see 100% of the company’s equity interests be acquired by its secured lender and its primary contract manufacturer, Shenzhen PICEA Robotics Co., Ltd. and Santrum Hong Kong Co., Limited.

In a press release, the company said that this move “will delever the Company's balance sheet and enable iRobot to continue operating in the ordinary course, pursue its product development roadmap, and maintain its global footprint.”

Shares of iRobot recently booked their biggest one-day gain on record, rising 74% on December 3 on the heels of a Politico report that the Trump administration was planning on going “all in” to boost the robotics industry.

That report spurred a wave of buying from traders who were presumably looking to get exposure to the theme, enticed by the name of a company that has “robot” in it, and less than fully versed on its financial position. Back in March, management had warned investors that “there is substantial doubt about the Company's ability to continue as a going concern for a period of at least 12 months.”

Volumes exceeded 228 million on Dec 3, also far and away a daily record for the stock.

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Data center trade deep in the red

The data center trade is seeing its steepest sell-off since the market rout that was ignited by President Donald Trump’s Rose Garden tariff announcement back in April.

Goldman Sachs’ themed basket of AI data center shares was down more than 6% at around 12 p.m. ET, putting it on track for its worst day since the tariff announcement.

Losses hammered seemingly every form of input needed for the sprawling concrete server warehouses at the heart of the investment boom.

Hardware makers including data storage companies like Sandisk, Western Digital, and Seagate Technology Holdings, as well as DRAM maker Micron — some of the best-performing stocks in the S&P 500 this year — were taking a licking, as were networking stocks Cisco and Arista Networks and data center builders such as Vertiv Holdings and electrical and mechanical contractor Emcor.

Optimism for all things AI has seemed to evaporate throughout the week, as the stock market greeted lackluster quarterly numbers from Oracle and Broadcom with jittery sell-offs and concern about growing debts that could crater cash flows.

Those worries seem to be spreading to ancillary beneficiaries of the AI boom on Friday, gouging a chunk out of charts that retail dip buyers have not — at least so far — stepped in to buy as we head into the weekend.

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Oracle denies Bloomberg report that it’s delaying some data centers for OpenAI to 2028 from 2027

Getting a multi-hundred-billion-dollar backlog for cloud computing revenues from data center projects is easy. Building them is hard.

Oracle extended declines to as much as -6.5% on the day on the heels of a Bloomberg report that the cloud giant has pushed back the completion dates for some of the data centers it’s building for OpenAI to 2028 from 2027, citing people familiar with the work. Oracle denied this report, telling Reuters that there have been no delays to any sites required to meet its contractual commitments and that all milestones remain on track.

Shares had fully pared their report-induced drop ahead of Oracle’s reply, but remain in the red for the day.

Bloomberg said the reported postponement was attributed to labor and material shortages.

Oracle has been spending more on capex than Wall Street had anticipated, leading to higher-than-expected cash burn. Management boosted its full-year capital spending plans by $15 billion after reporting Q2 results earlier this week.

Oracle’s cloud infrastructure sales came in short of estimates in its fiscal 2026 Q2, a signal that markets already had reason to doubt its ability to quickly turn its humungous RPO (that is, remaining purchase obligations) into revenues.

Traders also seem to be of the mind that potential delays to data center completions are going to limit sales for what goes into them.

Some of the bigger losers since the Bloomberg headline hit the wires include:

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Broadcom’s post-earnings tumble is weighing on Google’s entire AI ecosystem

Broadcom’s post-earnings plunge is prompting a sharp pullback in Google-linked AI stocks, which had been on fire thanks to the warm reception to Gemini 3.

The stocks getting hit hard:

A basket of these Google-linked AI stocks compiled by Morgan Stanley is suffering one of its worst losses of the year. This brisk retreat also follows the release of GPT-5.2 by OpenAI.

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