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Nvidia thinks it has a way to grind plateaus into vertical scale. Trillions of dollars are riding on it

Jon Keegan
11/21/24 1:56PM

In the past few weeks, there’s been a lot of chatter in the AI world that the current method of building increasingly powerful models may be reaching its limits.

The current “scaling law” of today’s large language models has essentially boiled down to more data plus more GPUs equals more capable models. This simple equation has helped push GPU behemoth Nvidia rise to the most valuable company in the US.

Now evidence is starting to appear that indicates these consistent gains may be starting to plateau. That would be very bad news for Nvidia, which Wall Street expects extremely high growth from.

But in yesterday’s third-quarter earnings call, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang did not seem alarmed. When asked about this on the call, Huang said:

“As you know, this is an empirical law, not a fundamental physical law. But the evidence is that it continues to scale. What were learning, however, is that its not enough, that weve now discovered two other ways to scale.”

Huang pointed to OpenAI’s latest model, OpenAI o1, as “one of the most exciting developments” in the effort to keep scaling AI gains, as it uses a multistep “reasoning” process to break queries down into steps. “The longer it thinks, the better and higher-quality answer it produces,” Huang said.

Nvidia’s GPU business is booming, and the company pulled in over $30 billion in Q3, up 112% year over year. The company is in the midst of a transition to a new class of “Blackwell” chips after supplying pretty much every company with its “Hopper” H100 GPUs, which helped train many of the foundational models in use today.

Intense competition for Nvidia’s GPUs have led to supply constraints, raising questions about the company’s ability to ramp up enough chips to meet demand, though Huang expects a smooth transition from the Hoppers to the Blackwells.

“Hopper demand will continue through next year, surely the first several quarters of the next year. And meanwhile, we will ship more Blackwells next quarter than this, and well ship more Blackwells the quarter after that than our first quarter,” Huang said.

Huang also noted an opportunity for Nvidia to update existing data centers to more modern computing clusters that are built to process AI.

“If you just look at the worlds data centers, the vast majority of it is built for a time when we wrote applications by hand and we ran them on CPUs. Its just not a sensible thing to do anymore,” Huang said.

Huang said that any company looking to build a data center tomorrow ought to build it for a future of machine learning and generative AI because they have plenty of old data centers.”

Colette Kress, Nvidia’s CFO, said the company’s focus on helping countries build “sovereign AI” is “such an important part of growth” and that the company continues to help countries that are “working to build these foundational models in their own language, in their own culture, and working in terms of the enterprises within those countries.”

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Amazon is testing adding GM electric vans to its EV delivery fleet dominated by Rivian

Rivian may have some competition in its electric delivery van division: Bloomberg reports that Amazon is testing a small number of GM’s BrightDrop vans for its fleet.

According to Amazon, the test currently only includes a dozen of the vehicles. Amazon’s fleet also contains EVs from Ford, Stellantis, and Mercedes-Benz.

GM debuted BrightDrop in 2021, but the vehicles have struggled to sell and piled up on GM lots due to high prices and steep competition. GM began offering up to 40% rebates on the vehicles this year.

The test comes as Rivian struggles through tariffs and the end of EV tax credits. Earlier this year, it lowered its annual delivery outlook by about 13%. As of June, Amazon said it has more than 25,000 Rivian vans across the US. Earlier this week, Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe said the company is still on track to deliver 100,000 vans to Amazon by 2030 and is “thinking about what comes beyond” that initial target.

GM has sold 1,592 BrightDrop vans through the first half of the year, more than the full-year total it sold in 2024.

GM debuted BrightDrop in 2021, but the vehicles have struggled to sell and piled up on GM lots due to high prices and steep competition. GM began offering up to 40% rebates on the vehicles this year.

The test comes as Rivian struggles through tariffs and the end of EV tax credits. Earlier this year, it lowered its annual delivery outlook by about 13%. As of June, Amazon said it has more than 25,000 Rivian vans across the US. Earlier this week, Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe said the company is still on track to deliver 100,000 vans to Amazon by 2030 and is “thinking about what comes beyond” that initial target.

GM has sold 1,592 BrightDrop vans through the first half of the year, more than the full-year total it sold in 2024.

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Paramount Skydance reportedly preparing an Ellison-backed Warner Bros. Discovery takeover bid, sending shares soaring

Paramount Skydance is preparing a majority cash bid for Warner Bros. Discovery, The Wall Street Journal reported, sending shares of both companies surging. The Journal’s sources say the deal is backed by the Ellison family, led by David Ellison.

WBD shares were up 30% on the report, while Paramount Skydance jumped 8%.

The offer would cover WBD’s entire business — cable networks, movie studios, the whole enchilada. That comes after WBD announced plans last year to split into two divisions: one for streaming and studios, the other for its traditional cable and TV assets. A recent Wells Fargo note gave WBD a price target hike, primarily because the analysts viewed it as a prime takeover candidate.

If the deal goes through, it would bring together HBO, CNN, DC Studios, and Warner Bros.’ film library with Paramount+, Nickelodeon, and MTV, all under one umbrella.

The offer would cover WBD’s entire business — cable networks, movie studios, the whole enchilada. That comes after WBD announced plans last year to split into two divisions: one for streaming and studios, the other for its traditional cable and TV assets. A recent Wells Fargo note gave WBD a price target hike, primarily because the analysts viewed it as a prime takeover candidate.

If the deal goes through, it would bring together HBO, CNN, DC Studios, and Warner Bros.’ film library with Paramount+, Nickelodeon, and MTV, all under one umbrella.

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